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PostLink    Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 6:09 pm    Post subject: Build a system from scratch... for 5k. Reply with quote


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So there is the challenge. I think it'd be interesting to see what you crazy cats come up with.

The deal is simple. NOT including the projector. Build a home theater from scratch for 5k. It must have

1 HD and 1 SD source.
7.1 Surround sound. Receiver or separates.
5.1 speakers
Unified remote.
Cables and connectors.
Network friendly.

It must be a system that YOU could be happy with.

Can it be done?

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PostLink    Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 6:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Question # 1, Does it have to be Bran new stuff or used as well or a mix?

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PostLink    Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 6:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nashou66 wrote:
Question # 1, Does it have to be Bran new stuff or used as well or a mix?

Athanasios


I'd like to say Brand new. It would be easier for someone to emulate. And a bit more of a challenge.

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PostLink    Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 6:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

> It must have:
7.1 Surround sound. Receiver or separates.
5.1 speakers
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What's wrong with this picture?

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PostLink    Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 6:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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> It must have:
7.1 Surround sound. Receiver or separates.
5.1 speakers
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What's wrong with this picture?


I want 7.1 capable. But many of us...(me) dont have a big enough room for 7 speakers.

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PostLink    Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 7:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's my first swing....



Blu Ray Denon DBP-2010CI Blu Ray Player 550.00
AV Denon AVR-3310CI A/V Receiver 1,499.00
Speakers B&W CM7 Floor standing Speakers 1,000.00
B&W CM7 Center Speakers 650.00
B&W CM 1 275.00
Sunfire HRS 8 Subwoofer 800.00
Sat/Box Dish Vip 722 HDTV -
Remote Apple WiFi Ipad Remote 450.00


Total $5,224.00

Links

http://usa.denon.com/ProductDetails/4972.asp
http://usa.denon.com/ProductDetails/4965.asp
http://www.sunfire.com/productdetail.asp?id=17
http://www.bowers-wilkins.com/display.aspx?infid=816&sc=ht
http://www.iruleathome.com/

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PostLink    Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 7:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oppo BDP 93 $500 (new)

Just bought a Krell home theater standard pre amp for $450 (used on e bay)

Found a Krell KAV 500 amp at a local pawn shop for $500 (used)

As for the speakers a pair of Definitive BP 2000 mains ,CLR2000 center and BPX surrounds for around $2,000 (used from a local pawn shop but in perfect condition)

Granted it is a 5.1 system but do you do you really need 7.1 ?

I guess my only point is buy used but good equipment. And know what you want before you buy it .

Patience being the key word here.... Wink
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PostLink    Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 8:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You didn't say whether we were talking about a system for a dedicated room, a multi-use room, a living room, etc. so I just assumed a dedicated room. Obviously, you could potentially get a lot more bang for the buck going used like Tom said, but if I were buying from scratch with that budget, my system would look something like this...

Onkyo TX-NR808 - $755 on Amazon

Oppo BDP-80 - $290 on Amazon

Aperion Intimus 6T-DB Hybrid XD w/o sub
Aperion 6T Towers (2) - $1390
Aperion 6C Center - $590
Aperion 5DB Dipole (2) - $690
5.1 Speakers Total - $2479

Elemental Designs A5-350 - <$800 shipped

iPad/iRule/gateway - $750

System Total - $5074 shipped

Add another couple hundy for interconnects, jacks, etc.

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PostLink    Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 8:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just don't know why i DO NOT like Onkyo.


Dont know...

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PostLink    Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 9:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's fine - I'm not a big Denon fan, either. Wink Just kidding. Substitute the 3310CI back in - Wan got his MUCH cheaper than the $1500 retail.

Holy crap, eCost has a refurb 3310ci for under $600!!!

http://www.ecost.com/detail.aspx?edp=53205659

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PostLink    Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 9:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ecrabb wrote:
That's fine - I'm not a big Denon fan, either. Wink Just kidding. Substitute the 3310CI back in - Wan got his MUCH cheaper than the $1500 retail.

Holy crap, eCost has a refurb 3310ci for under $600!!!

http://www.ecost.com/detail.aspx?edp=53205659

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Dude Thats an AWESOME price!!!!

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PostLink    Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 12:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

emdawgz1 wrote:
Here's my first swing....



Blu Ray Denon DBP-2010CI Blu Ray Player 550.00
AV Denon AVR-3310CI A/V Receiver 1,499.00
Speakers B&W CM7 Floor standing Speakers 1,000.00
B&W CM7 Center Speakers 650.00
B&W CM 1 275.00
Sunfire HRS 8 Subwoofer 800.00
Sat/Box Dish Vip 722 HDTV -
Remote Apple WiFi Ipad Remote 450.00


Total $5,224.00

Links

http://usa.denon.com/ProductDetails/4972.asp
http://usa.denon.com/ProductDetails/4965.asp
http://www.sunfire.com/productdetail.asp?id=17
http://www.bowers-wilkins.com/display.aspx?infid=816&sc=ht
http://www.iruleathome.com/


You are really silly for spending $1500 on last year model Denon AVR-3310CI. I just bought the new model (3311CI) for $817. Even using the MSRP the 3311CI is $300 less than last years model AND unlike the 3310CI the network interface actually works.

Then 2010CI can be had on Amazon for $300.

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PostLink    Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 12:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

emdawgz1 wrote:
Here's my first swing....



Blu Ray Denon DBP-2010CI Blu Ray Player 550.00
AV Denon AVR-3310CI A/V Receiver 1,499.00
Speakers B&W CM7 Floor standing Speakers 1,000.00
B&W CM7 Center Speakers 650.00
B&W CM 1 275.00
Sunfire HRS 8 Subwoofer 800.00
Sat/Box Dish Vip 722 HDTV -
Remote Apple WiFi Ipad Remote 450.00


Total $5,224.00


I think you asked for opinions so here is mine...

Onkyo or Pioneer Receiver acting as prepro - $800

Emotiva XPA-5 or 3x Pro amps (Crown, Behringer, QSC, etc.) - $800

Oppo BDP-80 - $300

DIY Speakers....just kidding Wink

Emotiva ERT-8.3 fronts - $1650
Emotiva ERT-6.3 center - $610
Emotiva ERD-1 surrounds - $360

DIY Sub....just kidding Wink

eD A5-350 - $715

No clue on remote...probably not the iPad but not sure how I would go now.

Total - $5235 w/o remote

But for me I would toss the speakers and build something equivalent to the JBL 3732s behind an acoustically transparent screen!



With the 8340As as surrounds!

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PostLink    Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 12:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Depending on room volume, wouldn't there be cases you could get away with the 3722 instead? About half the price for actual JBL product compared to the 3732.
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PostLink    Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 12:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

WanMan wrote:
Depending on room volume, wouldn't there be cases you could get away with the 3722 instead? About half the price for actual JBL product compared to the 3732.


Are you being serious?
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PostLink    Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 1:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anyone here actually using the IPad as a remote? Is the 16G IPad enough?

My front end of choice would be a preowned Onkyo 805. Good DACS, stiff amps, and very good build quality. Add in a PS3 slim and a 2TB media storage drive to the computer. Used Oppo 980 for DVD-A/SACD and as SD source. $1100 worth of budget eaten up.

The AT screen suggestion is a good one. It could be leveraged to hide a pair of DIY subs. I'd eq the subs with a used ebay'ed QSC DSP-3/4 or DSP-30. Pro amp to drive them. Expand the AT screen to a front AT wall and hide a lot of av clutter and wiring too (scoring some WAF points!). A used 2 post computer rack could even be built into it. DIY'er faceplates like some guys on AVS are doing, and one could have a very nice racking option for $200.

Speakers would be sourced preowned. There are some serious bargains to be had on slightly used speakers.
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PostLink    Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 2:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think you guys are missing a big piece, and that's a VP. I'm not sure about speakers, but I would say something like this:

Denon AVR-3311CI - $817
Lumagen Radiance XS $1975 (assuming you have an old one to trade in)
Oppo BDP-80 - $290 on Amazon
Logitech Harmony ONE - $173 on Amazon

This would leave you $1745 for speakers cables and connectors.

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PostLink    Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 3:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

WanMan wrote:
emdawgz1 wrote:
Here's my first swing....



Blu Ray Denon DBP-2010CI Blu Ray Player 550.00
AV Denon AVR-3310CI A/V Receiver 1,499.00
Speakers B&W CM7 Floor standing Speakers 1,000.00
B&W CM7 Center Speakers 650.00
B&W CM 1 275.00
Sunfire HRS 8 Subwoofer 800.00
Sat/Box Dish Vip 722 HDTV -
Remote Apple WiFi Ipad Remote 450.00


Total $5,224.00

Links

http://usa.denon.com/ProductDetails/4972.asp
http://usa.denon.com/ProductDetails/4965.asp
http://www.sunfire.com/productdetail.asp?id=17
http://www.bowers-wilkins.com/display.aspx?infid=816&sc=ht
http://www.iruleathome.com/


You are really silly for spending $1500 on last year model Denon AVR-3310CI. I just bought the new model (3311CI) for $817. Even using the MSRP the 3311CI is $300 less than last years model AND unlike the 3310CI the network interface actually works.

Then 2010CI can be had on Amazon for $300.


Wan... OBVIOUSLY i wouldn't spend that if i could get it cheaper... Thats kinda the point to this thread. To get new ideas....New sources for equipment....


Thanks dude!!!

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PostLink    Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 7:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can do a whole lot better on the Lumagen Radience XS and have another $800 towards speakers and cable...
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