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hotsauce2007
Joined: 18 Feb 2010 Posts: 4 Location: Brazil
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Link Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 3:44 am Post subject: A litle help with the graphics |
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Hi guys,
I saw the dummies tutorial, and buy one Eye Lt,
But maybe I need a lot of help over here...
check my graphics, and also, How can I do something better?
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Before:
After
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I´m using this on my Samsung 50' 1080p LCD Tv.
tks4 the help...
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garyfritz
Joined: 08 Apr 2006 Posts: 12026 Location: Fort Collins, CO
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Link Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 3:15 pm Post subject: |
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Well that's much better, but you still have some work to do. I'm guessing those are the low-IRE data points near 9300? Except low-IRE measurements generally tend to read red, not blue. I don't know how the Eye-One does in low lumens.
Here are a few things to do:
1. Do a Primary & Secondary measurement, and post the resulting CIE diagram. That will tell us if your primaries are off.
2. Post the Luminance graph, Gamma graph, RGB Levels graph, and color temp graph. Those tell a lot more about your grayscale performance than the CIE diagram.
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hotsauce2007
Joined: 18 Feb 2010 Posts: 4 Location: Brazil
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Link Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 3:38 am Post subject: |
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garyfritz wrote: | Well that's much better, but you still have some work to do. I'm guessing those are the low-IRE data points near 9300? Except low-IRE measurements generally tend to read red, not blue. I don't know how the Eye-One does in low lumens.
Here are a few things to do:
1. Do a Primary & Secondary measurement, and post the resulting CIE diagram. That will tell us if your primaries are off.
2. Post the Luminance graph, Gamma graph, RGB Levels graph, and color temp graph. Those tell a lot more about your grayscale performance than the CIE diagram. |
Hey Gary,
tks for the help,
There´s my calibrations files, before and after, tell me what u think...
http://www.htforum.com/vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=22437&d=1262479959
two files, zip,
thanks again,
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garyfritz
Joined: 08 Apr 2006 Posts: 12026 Location: Fort Collins, CO
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Link Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 4:20 am Post subject: |
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I can't access them without registering at the site. Can you post them here?
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hotsauce2007
Joined: 18 Feb 2010 Posts: 4 Location: Brazil
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Link Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 10:26 am Post subject: |
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wow,
sorry Gary, my bad...
Here we go again ,
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=G1U0LWQZ
I´ve be looking for english subtitles in BD DVE HD basics, but I can´t find,
This BD has subtitles? My disc is from amazon.com, here in brazil I find a guy selling this same BD, but with subtitles included, spanish and english, this is true?...
thanks ...
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garyfritz
Joined: 08 Apr 2006 Posts: 12026 Location: Fort Collins, CO
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Link Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 4:13 pm Post subject: |
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Can't help you on BD DVE -- I don't have it.
OK, your "before" is really terrible, with everything badly skewed toward blue. You knew that, but I'm a bit surprised at how bad some of the charts look. Did you figure out why everything was so consistently blue?
Your "after" results are much better. I'll bet your colors look a WHOLE lot better now!! As I suspected, the worst points on the CIE diagram are for 0 and 10 IRE. Probes often don't read well at those low levels so it's hard to say whether it's a problem with your calibration or a limitation of your probe, but I'd suspect the probe. Don't worry too much about those unless you notice the really dark areas looking noticeably blue-ish.
You didn't include primaries and secondaries on the CIE chart so I can't tell how those are.
The Luminance and Gamma charts show that your luminance levels at various IRE levels are off, resulting in a high gamma (low brightness) at low IREs, and low gamma (high brightness) in the 40-80% range. This means your low-level areas (shadow details, things like that) are too dark, and mid-level areas (most areas on the screen, usually) are too bright. It may be hard to see detail in dark areas.
Your color temp results are not too bad. You want the delta E (magenta line on the RGB Levels chart, which shows how far off you are from the ideal D6500 color temp) to be as low as possible. Yours are under 10 for 20-100%. You can certainly do better but that's pretty good.
Now, what to do? There I can't help you much. I have no idea how to adjust your Samsung. If you have the ability to tweak color levels at different IRE levels, that would be my first recommendation. R & G are too high from 40-80%, and B is too high 40-90%.
I don't see any 50" LCD's on the Samsung site, but all the 46-55" TV's are "Series 6" and are probably similar. But the manuals don't cover anything about calibration so I can't offer any suggestions.
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hotsauce2007
Joined: 18 Feb 2010 Posts: 4 Location: Brazil
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Link Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 2:50 am Post subject: |
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garyfritz wrote: | Can't help you on BD DVE -- I don't have it.
OK, your "before" is really terrible, with everything badly skewed toward blue. You knew that, but I'm a bit surprised at how bad some of the charts look. Did you figure out why everything was so consistently blue?
Your "after" results are much better. I'll bet your colors look a WHOLE lot better now!! As I suspected, the worst points on the CIE diagram are for 0 and 10 IRE. Probes often don't read well at those low levels so it's hard to say whether it's a problem with your calibration or a limitation of your probe, but I'd suspect the probe. Don't worry too much about those unless you notice the really dark areas looking noticeably blue-ish.
You didn't include primaries and secondaries on the CIE chart so I can't tell how those are.
The Luminance and Gamma charts show that your luminance levels at various IRE levels are off, resulting in a high gamma (low brightness) at low IREs, and low gamma (high brightness) in the 40-80% range. This means your low-level areas (shadow details, things like that) are too dark, and mid-level areas (most areas on the screen, usually) are too bright. It may be hard to see detail in dark areas.
Your color temp results are not too bad. You want the delta E (magenta line on the RGB Levels chart, which shows how far off you are from the ideal D6500 color temp) to be as low as possible. Yours are under 10 for 20-100%. You can certainly do better but that's pretty good.
Now, what to do? There I can't help you much. I have no idea how to adjust your Samsung. If you have the ability to tweak color levels at different IRE levels, that would be my first recommendation. R & G are too high from 40-80%, and B is too high 40-90%.
I don't see any 50" LCD's on the Samsung site, but all the 46-55" TV's are "Series 6" and are probably similar. But the manuals don't cover anything about calibration so I can't offer any suggestions. |
Hey gary,
I´m back...
I was trying to find patterns for secondary and primary colours test, but now I get, so I did the measure and there is the results:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=PC03B388
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and sorry, u are right, my tv has 52" inches,
I´ll do again the calibration for dummies,
thank u soo much for the help...
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