So are you going to build your own subs?? That might be my next project too. I need more bass and would love to custom make two subs to fit beneath my screen on either side of my center. They can only be like 15" deep though... so a narrower but taller and longer would have to work, but i'm not sure of the acoustic properties...
BTW any pics of the meet? It's always fun to see everyone enjoying the show, put names with faces etc...
Link Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 9:29 pm Post subject:
I keep going back and forth between building and just buying something - like from Elemental Designs. They have some VERY reasonable subs. I really like the sound of sealed subs better, though. Building subs are a pretty easy project, really. I already have a bunch of drivers. The amps are cheap. MDF is cheap. I could probably build a couple of pretty awesome subs for ~$300 ea. considering I already have the drivers. I might do that in the summer when I can work in the garage again. I think eD can custom-make cabinets. I might even just get a price from them on cutting up the MDF with their whiz-bang CAD/CAMM router. The cutting is the part I hate, and it's SO hard to get nice strait cuts and joints - especially since I don't have a table saw. The CAMM router is SO damn accurate. That would make things very fast and easy. Email eD a file, and go pick up a stack of pieces a week later. Bank the rest out in a weekend. I might give it a try...
As for pics - this is really embarrassing... I'm so pissed... I got so wrapped up in the meet, talking to people, cranking up the HT, having fun - I completely forgot to take any pics until right at the end after most people were gone!!!! Doh! Bonehead!
Attached are literally the only three pictures I took. Arggghhh....
Of special note is my white trash unfinished basement, complete with cardboard boxes stacked up behind the system running eD's beautiful little monitors. I'm sure people were driving home saying to their significant others, "Can you BELIEVE he actually invited people into his house with a basement that looked like that?"
Fortunately, I didn't care what anybody thought of my unfinished basement. The truth is that Chad and I busted so much ass on the theater, I just wanted to get some friends together, show the room off, and have a good time shooting the sh*t and playing with HT gear. MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!
It was no "Art" meet, but I had fun anyway!
SC
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My friend Chad and his wife Michelle in the living room after everybody else was gone. :rolleyes:
Link Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 9:38 pm Post subject:
Oh, and here's the invite I sent out to everybody who confirmed they were coming...
Basic design ripped off from an Apple special event invite, and I modified it with my theater's "identity" and info. Hey, cut me some slack - I don't have time to design EVERYTHING!!!
Joined: 02 Oct 2007 Posts: 38 Location: Chicago,USA
Link Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 10:03 pm Post subject:
I love the pink accent walls in the basement, you are so bold in your color pallet!!!!! My picture may not be A+++/1080P but at least my entire basement is completely finished
I like your house though. Belongs in nearby Oak Park by Frank LLoyd Wrights place, not in metropolitan Des Moines!!!
Dude that invite is way cool. I love the blowing grass. You should get some sound panels from Auralex with that image on there!!! And I never heard the name before? Is that new too?? Was Garrison Keiler at the meet??
Joined: 02 Oct 2007 Posts: 38 Location: Chicago,USA
Link Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 10:08 pm Post subject:
Forgot to talk about subs... I would like to make mine, it would be easy and cool to have made my own...BTW You just need to move! I have a whole wood shop with tablesaw, bandsaw, jointer, planer, router table, dust collection system.
We could rock the house with what we could make in there.
GT
Link Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 11:29 pm Post subject:
ecrabb wrote:
I keep going back and forth between building and just buying something - like from Elemental Designs. They have some VERY reasonable subs. I really like the sound of sealed subs better, though. Building subs are a pretty easy project, really. I already have a bunch of drivers. The amps are cheap. MDF is cheap. I could probably build a couple of pretty awesome subs for ~$300 ea. considering I already have the drivers. I might do that in the summer when I can work in the garage again. I think eD can custom-make cabinets. I might even just get a price from them on cutting up the MDF with their whiz-bang CAD/CAMM router. The cutting is the part I hate, and it's SO hard to get nice strait cuts and joints - especially since I don't have a table saw. The CAMM router is SO damn accurate. That would make things very fast and easy. Email eD a file, and go pick up a stack of pieces a week later. Bank the rest out in a weekend. I might give it a try...
As for pics - this is really embarrassing... I'm so pissed... I got so wrapped up in the meet, talking to people, cranking up the HT, having fun - I completely forgot to take any pics until right at the end after most people were gone!!!! Doh! Bonehead!
Attached are literally the only three pictures I took. Arggghhh....
Of special note is my white trash unfinished basement, complete with cardboard boxes stacked up behind the system running eD's beautiful little monitors. I'm sure people were driving home saying to their significant others, "Can you BELIEVE he actually invited people into his house with a basement that looked like that?"
Fortunately, I didn't care what anybody thought of my unfinished basement. The truth is that Chad and I busted so much ass on the theater, I just wanted to get some friends together, show the room off, and have a good time shooting the sh*t and playing with HT gear. MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!
It was no "Art" meet, but I had fun anyway!
SC
HEY!!!!!! I WANTED TO COME!!!!!!!!
As far as the unfinished basement, well, I have that same problem. My theater is the only finished room.........
Link Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 1:38 am Post subject:
overclkr wrote:
HEY!!!!!! I WANTED TO COME!!!!!!!!
Crap! Sorry, Cliff! It started out just a little Iowa thing... There's a group of us on AVS - the Iowa Meet Thread. I didn't even think of posting anything here! Then, since Art didn't have his meet and I couldn't make it to yours, I invited Garen on the off chance he might be able to make it over (we were going to meet up at your place).
I guess I assumed my little old theater and an afternoon meet probably wasn't worth the drive over from Chi-town... That's a pretty serious haul (OK, not Virginia serious)... Plus, there's no G90 stack or 14-foot wide scope screen waiting for you when you get here! It's just my little old 6-seater HT. I TOTALLY would have invited everybody here if I'd have thought there would have been any interest. Next time, I guess! Damn... Sorry!
I think I want to do a night thing next time. More of a "party/HT meet" and less of an "HT meet". I want to finish the basement this spring/summer, so the house will definitely be more party-friendly. I'll have been busting ass on the basement finish for 6 or 8 months, so next fall we'll have an HT/basement-break-in party! Maybe I can do it in late September this time so we can be outside, too. Or maybe spring? I don't know...
Oh, and I want to come your place next year, too - work totally screwed me over this summer.
Link Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 3:00 am Post subject:
ecrabb wrote:
overclkr wrote:
HEY!!!!!! I WANTED TO COME!!!!!!!!
Crap! Sorry, Cliff! It started out just a little Iowa thing... There's a group of us on AVS - the Iowa Meet Thread. I didn't even think of posting anything here! Then, since Art didn't have his meet and I couldn't make it to yours, I invited Garen on the off chance he might be able to make it over (we were going to meet up at your place).
I guess I assumed my little old theater and an afternoon meet probably wasn't worth the drive over from Chi-town... That's a pretty serious haul (OK, not Virginia serious)... Plus, there's no G90 stack or 14-foot wide scope screen waiting for you when you get here! It's just my little old 6-seater HT. I TOTALLY would have invited everybody here if I'd have thought there would have been any interest. Next time, I guess! Damn... Sorry!
I think I want to do a night thing next time. More of a "party/HT meet" and less of an "HT meet". I want to finish the basement this spring/summer, so the house will definitely be more party-friendly. I'll have been busting ass on the basement finish for 6 or 8 months, so next fall we'll have an HT/basement-break-in party! Maybe I can do it in late September this time so we can be outside, too. Or maybe spring? I don't know...
Oh, and I want to come your place next year, too - work totally screwed me over this summer.
Cheers,
SC
Dude, don't sweat it. I was just yanking your chain.
I definitely would like to check your place out one day though. You've done a very nice job with that room.
As far as my place, well, dude we had a blast back in August. You should try and do the East Coast as well if William is gracious enough to let us in his home again in August 09.
I've had so much fun getting to know everyone in this hobby. What a seriously AWESOME, smart, and talented bunch I have been surrounded by for the last 5 years.
Link Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 7:05 am Post subject:
overclkr wrote:
I've had so much fun getting to know everyone in this hobby. What a seriously AWESOME, smart, and talented bunch I have been surrounded by for the last 5 years.
Absolutely! Same here! I've met some awesome people at Art's place and some awesome people at your house, too!
Hey, guys... It's been just over a year since I finished a bunch of the cosmetic work in my room: Trim, screen border, rack clean-up, rack door, etc. I even had the pics posted, but just never updated the thread. So, here they be... Enjoy.
Joined: 02 Oct 2007 Posts: 38 Location: Chicago,USA
Link Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 3:11 pm Post subject:
nice shots as always, but took you long enough The last post to this thread was 363 days ago!!! It came up in my email since I am subscribed and I was like "what is this..."
Link Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 3:21 pm Post subject:
Thanks, guys - even you, Garen...
Oh, sh*t... Hey, I bet you'd like to have some photos of your theater to post, too... Arrgghhh.... I will get your discs in the mail this week, dammit.
Joined: 02 Oct 2007 Posts: 38 Location: Chicago,USA
Link Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 4:09 pm Post subject:
ecrabb wrote:
Thanks, guys - even you, Garen...
Oh, sh*t... Hey, I bet you'd like to have some photos of your theater to post, too... Arrgghhh.... I will get your discs in the mail this week, dammit.
SC
No worries SC...just send me one of your old Nikkor lenses instead BTW the 70-300 should be here this week!! can't wait!
GT
BTW nice work on the iRule graphics(Love the shut down seq)!! I finally put my HTPC into my rack and had to redo all the wires so now I need to hook up the GC for good and get back to working on the iRule...
Link Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 4:32 pm Post subject:
Thanks, man! I can't wait to have it completely set up and working. The automation is really the only piece of my theater that's completely missing.
I'm loving iRule so far... The startup macro is sweet... I press the "System On" button, it turns on the hushbox, turns on the projector, turns on the prepro, and turns on the lights. The "System Standby" button does the reverse, but I can't get the damn G70 IR code for "off" to work. Grrr... It's so cool, though being able to do it from upstairs before I even go down the theater... Walk down, and it's sitting there ready to rock and roll.
Oh, I found out the ideal deal dealy for HR-22 button sequences is .4 seconds... .1 and .2 seconds are unusable, .3 and .5 are flakey, but .4 seems to be just the ticket. It worked over and over when I tested those buttons last night.
I've spent a shitload of time on iRule, though. I need to get it all working and move on to some other projects, then improve and tweak it later.
Joined: 02 Oct 2007 Posts: 38 Location: Chicago,USA
Link Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 4:37 pm Post subject:
ecrabb wrote:
Thanks, man! I can't wait to have it completely set up and working. The automation is really the only piece of my theater that's completely missing.
I'm loving iRule so far... The startup macro is sweet... I press the "System On" button, it turns on the hushbox, turns on the projector, turns on the prepro, and turns on the lights. The "System Standby" button does the reverse, but I can't get the damn G70 IR code for "off" to work. Grrr... It's so cool, though being able to do it from upstairs before I even go down the theater... Walk down, and it's sitting there ready to rock and roll.
Oh, I found out the ideal deal dealy for HR-22 button sequences is .4 seconds... .1 and .2 seconds are unusable, .3 and .5 are flakey, but .4 seems to be just the ticket. It worked over and over when I tested those buttons last night.
I've spent a shitload of time on iRule, though. I need to get it all working and move on to some other projects, then improve and tweak it later.
SC
Well I for one appreciate all your work, especially with the graphics, the stock ones were just to blah... Thanks for the HR22 heads up! Since I wiped my XP desktop that had the irule on it, I need to reinstall everything...and get back to working on it now that it seems to be a little less buggy! Your interfaces just rock though, look like crestron/amx stuff...is rs-232 working yet?
Joined: 20 Apr 2006 Posts: 449 Location: Maryville, Tennessee (Just South of Knoxville)
Link Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 5:07 pm Post subject:
SC
Have you considered custom built-in sub-woofers? When I built my theater in the basement, I built 4th order bandpass subs into the ceiling. There are 4 subs using 8" vifa drivers. I case you are not familar with 4th order bandpass enclosures, all the sound emits from a single port and are very easy to design and implement. Although it is considered a ported speaker, the low cutoff behaves like a 1st order sealed system. The 4th order refers to the low pass response. The bass they provide is impressive IMO. Using the DVE test disc, to my ears, I'd say the system stays flat to about 25hz. However, there is output that I can't really hear but is felt. The fact that 8" drivers can do this is impressive. Since the cabinet is built in, finish is irrevelent. No special woodworking skills or tools necessary. Another plus is the WAF is high as the only visible part of the sub you see is the 4" tube face from each sub. My main speakers are all small KEF speakers. I much prefer this to huge speakers populating the room.
The only reason I used the 8" Vifa drivers was because they were left over from another project. If I had to do it again, I would probably use bigger drivers.
Link Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 5:29 pm Post subject:
Yeah, right now, I've got iRule talking to all this stuff:
- Integra Prepro via IP
- GC over IP, which is the bridge to
+ X-10 interface via RS232
+ Extron Crosspoint switcher via RS232
+ G70 via IR (sorta, dammit)
+ PS3 via IR - Logitech IR/BT adapter
+ Toshiba HD DVD via IR
It isn't all fully functional, but it's connected and working.
Link Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 6:01 pm Post subject:
Ohhh... Yeah, but I don't have a blended stack on a big scope screen... Thanks though, Athanasios! You'll get there... It's a journey. All the hard work will pay off, and you'll have the best of both worlds - a kick ass room with a kick-ass system in it.
I've said it before but if I was single, I'd have two spaces... One like mine that was nice and clean and comfortable, and another that was all bidness... My labooooratory... All black - everywhere - open ceiling with cable tray, lots of options for different screens and mounting... And I'd be playing with blends and stacks, and probably even digitals.
My "if I ever win the lottery" dream is to have a gigantic walk-out basement, with a double-deep single-car garage-sized shop machining and woodworking tools, with double doors for bring in materials, attached to a big open room with a bunch of countertop, rolling work surfaces, all the tools, etc. I'd never get bored, because I'd just be designing and building stuff all the time. Hmm... This month, I think I'll build a big two-seat racing sim with a wraparound projection. Next month is the flight sim.
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