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Barco Graphics 808 AC ---> LC
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Decibel



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PostLink    Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 1:02 pm    Post subject: Barco Graphics 808 AC ---> LC Reply with quote


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I've purchase a set of P16 LC tubes from Curt and the tubes are here now Very Happy

A question for scheimpflug system, see this photo.



Green tube have four springs (understand?), two upper and two down.

Blue and red tubes have two down only.

Why?

I want to change glycol for all tubes because into green tube there is a little impurity in suspension.



Suggestions?

I hope that you understood Very Happy

Thanks

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PostLink    Posted: Tue May 19, 2009 12:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

However the conversion is continuing.

Today I have changed the c-element

The new P16 tubes with new c-element (from G70)




Go out the old incompatible



Install new Smile




Ok!!! color corrected Thumbs Up


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PostLink    Posted: Tue May 19, 2009 1:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm glad you did that.

Now you can use lenses designed for forward projection, as well as filtered for better colours.
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PostLink    Posted: Tue May 19, 2009 1:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mark_A_W wrote:

Now you can use lenses designed for forward projection


Yes yes Very Happy

I' have a set of nice HD18



A my dear friend making the adapters for tubes and lenses Wink

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PostLink    Posted: Tue May 26, 2009 10:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My dear friend "effecci" has prepared for me the tube and chassis adapters Thumbs Up

















Thank you effecci Wink

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PostLink    Posted: Wed May 27, 2009 6:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

WOW! What a great friend you have there.... Smile
That is gorgeous workmanship!!

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PostLink    Posted: Fri May 29, 2009 8:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

New adapter and lens.



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The new adapters are in place!!!







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Adapter+tube+lens


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PostLink    Posted: Fri May 29, 2009 2:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That is awesome work!! Thumbs Up
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PostLink    Posted: Fri May 29, 2009 6:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good looking adapters!

Is there going to be enough center focus adjustment range with adapters?
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PostLink    Posted: Fri May 29, 2009 6:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Possibly, if he uses a small screen...
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PostLink    Posted: Sat May 30, 2009 12:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ile wrote:

Is there going to be enough center focus adjustment range with adapters?


I think yes ... unfortunately I haven't plate of the G70 Rolling Eyes

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PostLink    Posted: Sat May 30, 2009 12:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

zGman wrote:
Possibly, if he uses a small screen...


Why?

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PostLink    Posted: Sat May 30, 2009 1:45 am    Post subject: HD-18 lens conversion Reply with quote

Good Question!

The base of the HD-18 lens needs to be on the same plane as the recess
in the original lens mounting plate that was on the Barco LC housing.

Looks like you will be about 5mm further out, and since the focus point
moves inward as the screen width increases - you will likely be limited
in screen width.

Your friend did a beautiful job on the machine work, no doubt - I love to see it!

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PostLink    Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 2:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Go out old 180dvb22




Replace with P16 LC






coooooooooolllllll



Thank you Curt Thumbs Up
Thank you effecci Very Happy

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PostLink    Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 3:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks Great!
You are really going to love the new tubes with HD-18 lenses.
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PostLink    Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 3:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a problem with electric focus Embarassed

In according with service manual I have set at 57 focus of all tubes.

I do not succeed to having a good focus because I do not have more margin than movement in ahead.

Focus yokes are in contact with deflection yokes, I don't have more margin!



Suggestions?

Thanks

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PostLink    Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 5:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Usually electronic focus is needed to tweak after yokes mechanic adjustment.

Do you get good focus with electronic mid point adjustment?

If no, you might need to cut those deflection yoke plastic clamps off and use rtv to lock yokes to level. Two small blob between yoke and tube bell should be enough.
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PostLink    Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 8:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

or cut the focus coils screw threads on the deflection coil side off, this way you still have one clam on the neck side of the tube to lok focus coil into place.
Also you might get better focus away from tube face so remove the cpc mags and move coll up and down tube face to find best location, if you can do this with no electronic focus connected first , then do it that way. Its how i find best static focus of the coil before any electronic focus is going through it.

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PostLink    Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 12:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have done several of these conversions on BG808S - you should be able
to pull in perfect electronic focus. Look in the lens (with reduced contrast &
on an off angle) and have a look at the grid lines while ramping the focus
control. Also bear in mind you can't really make serious progress on focus
until astig (cpc magnets) is dialed in very accurately. Also - it is a lot easier
to work on focus (and astig) with external patterns, IMHO...

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PostLink    Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 12:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

zGman wrote:
I have done several of these conversions on BG808S


The vpr is a BG808 non "s" I'have swapped 180dvb22 AC to P16 LC.

However I must to setup flare and astigmatism .... ok, thank you Wink

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