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Interested in purchasing upgrade? |
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RogueChili
Joined: 31 Mar 2008 Posts: 162 Location: Westfield, MA
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Link Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 6:18 pm Post subject: SONY VPH-1292Q STREAKING PROBLEM SOLVED |
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Good News ? I have engineered a fix for the so called “streaking problem” in the 1292. The implementation requires the addition of a small P.C. board to each of the existing neck board assemblies and minor modifications to the neck board.
I have implemented the mod on six neck boards with 100% success. The mod eliminates the streaks, the dark bands and improves the overall picture contrast.
This poll is to get an idea of how many 1292 users are out there willing to commit to purchasing this upgrade and to determine its cost and viability.
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Nashou66
Joined: 12 Jan 2007 Posts: 16171 Location: West Seneca NY
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azzkicker
Joined: 20 Jan 2009 Posts: 33 Location: Germany
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Link Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 6:40 pm Post subject: |
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hi
ive been very intrested of this fix, and what its cost, then i am from germany
give me more info about this
thx for you hard work
best regards
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Elaine Benes
Joined: 25 Apr 2006 Posts: 1416
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Link Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 7:03 pm Post subject: |
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I'm sure there would be a great deal of interest at a cost of $20./ neckboard/fix, but I'd also bet that interest would exponentially decline with a steady increase in price. How many would be willing to pay $200./neckboard ? I'd bet only a handful.
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draganm
Joined: 08 Mar 2006 Posts: 8990 Location: Colorado
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Link Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 7:12 pm Post subject: |
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Elaine Benes wrote: | I'm sure there would be a great deal of interest at a cost of $20./ neckboard/fix, but I'd also bet that interest would exponentially decline with a steady increase in price. How many would be willing to pay $200./neckboard ? I'd bet only a handful. | give me a break, there's no way something like this could be done for 20 bucks. He has to make a circuit-board and then modify the old card. At $100. each($300. per PJ) it would be a very cheap price.
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draganm
Joined: 08 Mar 2006 Posts: 8990 Location: Colorado
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Link Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 7:12 pm Post subject: |
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BTW, I voted no but i'm not a 1292 user. Not sure if that counts??
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Elaine Benes
Joined: 25 Apr 2006 Posts: 1416
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Link Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 7:43 pm Post subject: |
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edited
Last edited by Elaine Benes on Tue Mar 31, 2009 8:44 pm; edited 1 time in total
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Zebu Fellenz
Joined: 21 Dec 2006 Posts: 2567
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Link Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 7:58 pm Post subject: |
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Cost? I think this will be the determining factor.
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ecrabb Forum Moderator
Joined: 13 Mar 2006 Posts: 15909 Location: Utah
TV/Projector: JVC RS40, Epson 5010
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Link Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 8:07 pm Post subject: |
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Zebu Fellenz wrote: | Cost? I think this will be the determining factor. |
I think he first wants to get some idea of how many parties are interested, since depending on whether he has 5 or 15 interested parties, the price will be impacted greatly. The thing that scares me about this is that Kal has mentioned on more than one occasion somebody doing a "survey" like this, and had many interested parties. After production was done, and it was time to place orders, hardly anybody moved on it.
Personally, given the number of 1292's out there, and all the other options now, I just can't see enough people interested to make this a viable venture. I could see if everybody wanted to chip in on the parts and go DIY - maybe. But, start putting in manufacturing and production, labor to do the mod, shipping two ways... I'm not seeing it happening.
But, hey - Congrats on the fix and best of luck!
SC
PS - You probably should have restricted your voting to people who either have 1292's or people who would buy a 1292 if they had the streaking fix. My opinion isn't relevant since I don't have a 1292 - so I didn't vote.
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Vibe
Joined: 03 Apr 2006 Posts: 164 Location: SoCal
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Link Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 10:37 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, own a near mint 1292 and would definitely be interested.
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Curt Palme CRT Tech
Joined: 08 Mar 2006 Posts: 24301 Location: Langley, BC
TV/Projector: All of them!
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Link Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 11:01 pm Post subject: |
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draganm wrote: | Elaine Benes wrote: | I'm sure there would be a great deal of interest at a cost of $20./ neckboard/fix, but I'd also bet that interest would exponentially decline with a steady increase in price. How many would be willing to pay $200./neckboard ? I'd bet only a handful. | give me a break, there's no way something like this could be done for 20 bucks. He has to make a circuit-board and then modify the old card. At $100. each($300. per PJ) it would be a very cheap price. |
Hey, we makka chip board, you pay $10 a board and we give you happy ending too. We no give warranty though.
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draganm
Joined: 08 Mar 2006 Posts: 8990 Location: Colorado
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Link Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 1:20 am Post subject: |
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ecrabb wrote: | Personally, given the number of 1292's out there, and all the other options now, I just can't see enough people interested to make this a viable venture. I could see if everybody wanted to chip in on the parts and go DIY - maybe. But, start putting in manufacturing and production, labor to do the mod, shipping two ways... I'm not seeing it happening. | I think your right, it's a few years too late for this to be profitable but there's always the option of doing it for the hobby in general.
Curt Palme wrote: | Hey, we makka chip board, you pay $10 a board and we give you happy ending too. We no give warranty though. | yeah there's that option, but I think we have outsourced just about everythign so lets at least build this here.
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Mark_A_W
Joined: 15 Mar 2006 Posts: 3068 Location: Sunny Melbourne Australia
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Link Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 9:20 am Post subject: |
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I think the best thing that could be done for the 1292 community is to publish the board and allow owners to DIY it.
It's just too hard otherwise, and there's no money in this stuff anymore.
If this mod was published, I'd seriously start hunting for a 1292.
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Brian Hampton
Joined: 22 Apr 2006 Posts: 1174
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Link Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 9:41 pm Post subject: |
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It's an April Fool's Joke like when MP said he had the answer.
(Sorry, MP,.... I do have nothing but respect for you.)
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RogueChili
Joined: 31 Mar 2008 Posts: 162 Location: Westfield, MA
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Link Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 10:11 pm Post subject: |
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No! This is no joke, I have documented proof!
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THEORY OF OPERATION.doc |
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Curt Palme CRT Tech
Joined: 08 Mar 2006 Posts: 24301 Location: Langley, BC
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Link Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 10:13 pm Post subject: |
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BEst proof I've seen in years. Digital in, analog out!
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RogueChili
Joined: 31 Mar 2008 Posts: 162 Location: Westfield, MA
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Link Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 4:54 pm Post subject: |
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Based on current poll data, cost estimate for upgrade kit is $215
CostPerKit = (InitialInvestment + Demand*(PartsCost + LaborCost)) / Demand
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Clarence
Joined: 08 Mar 2006 Posts: 3793 Location: Smith Mtn Lake, VA
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Link Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 5:36 pm Post subject: |
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I've got a minty 1292 in the equipment closet that might be fun to mod. So count me in if this mod gets ~$100. Otherwise, it's nice to know the option might be available for the next owner.
Otherwise, the 1292 gets bashed too much for it's size, fan noise, and lack of brightness. I think the streaking problem is #4 on the list of perceived drawbacks. So I can't see investing more into this beast if the first 3 stereotypes are already hurting the potential for resale regardless of the cost. But if this was my primary projector, $215 would be a worthy mod.
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azzkicker
Joined: 20 Jan 2009 Posts: 33 Location: Germany
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Link Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 6:26 pm Post subject: |
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hi
i will this mod for 200 bucks, i love my 1292 with zero wear and i have shipping cost i will here in germany
then i have 3-4 weeks no homecinema when i sent my neckboards
best regards
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draganm
Joined: 08 Mar 2006 Posts: 8990 Location: Colorado
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Link Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 6:42 pm Post subject: |
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RogueChili wrote: | Based on current poll data, cost estimate for upgrade kit is $215
CostPerKit = (InitialInvestment + Demand*(PartsCost + LaborCost)) / Demand | $215. per machine or for each neck-board?
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