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Advice - Moving a joist face mounted junction box

 
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JustGreg



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PostLink    Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 3:34 pm    Post subject: Advice - Moving a joist face mounted junction box Reply with quote


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I'm in the (on)going process of trying to finish the basement outside my theater and ran into a snag. I've moved everything that was hanging down below or mounted to, the spines of the joists in order to hang a drywall ceiling. This damn junction box has me stumped. I'm not concerned with getting the wires re-paired up after as I'll use wire markers but I need to get that box up inside the cavity.

My immediate question is, is there a conduit cutter like a tubing cutter I can use to cut these in place? I'm not going to hack saw them as I don't plan on pulling the wires out.
Actually I can't pull them out. The two conduits seen running to the left on top of the newly encased ductwork run on top of the ducts and then straight up. One to feed an outlet outside the livingroom and the other keeps on trucking right up into the attic.





Thanks for any advice guys. Thumbs Up

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PostLink    Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 3:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A standard tubing cutter works fine for me. You may have to find one with a short handle due to the limited space you have there. You may need to file down the burrs on the inside of the conduit afterward.
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PostLink    Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 5:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jkruger wrote:
A standard tubing cutter works fine for me. You may have to find one with a short handle due to the limited space you have there. You may need to file down the burrs on the inside of the conduit afterward.

Thank you. I thought maybe something like that existed but I didn't have time when I got to work to research. I'll see if I can rent or borrow one.
EDIT: I just searched for one...I see what you mean about the handle. Hopefully I can get the tubes away from the joist enough to shwing it around enough. Cool. Thumbs Up

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PostLink    Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 5:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just use one of the close quarters tubing cutters
http://www.ridgid.com/Tools/Midget-Tubing-Cutters/EN/index.htm
That should do ya

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PostLink    Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 6:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Greg,

This Greenlee model says it will cut 1/2" and 3/4" EMT. That looks like a fairly long run so you should be able to pull it away far enough from the joist to cut it.
http://cableorganizer.com/greenlee/greenlee-8600-conduit-cutter.html

One thing, though... I'm not sure if you're trying to do code-compliant work (or if you don't care)... But the NEC doesn't allow for concealing a junction box behind drywall. The idea is that if there's a problem at some later time, you basically have to destroy the finished ceiling to find the problem or tap into the circuit. You can probably call your local inspector over the phone and ask without identifying yourself. Or, you might to just want to switch to a deep junction box, leave it exposed in the finished ceiling with a blank cover on it.

Or, you could pretend I never mentioned it just do it how you were going to do it. Wink

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JustGreg



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PostLink    Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 9:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ecrabb wrote:
Greg,

This Greenlee model says it will cut 1/2" and 3/4" EMT. That looks like a fairly long run so you should be able to pull it away far enough from the joist to cut it.
http://cableorganizer.com/greenlee/greenlee-8600-conduit-cutter.html

One thing, though... I'm not sure if you're trying to do code-compliant work (or if you don't care)... But the NEC doesn't allow for concealing a junction box behind drywall. The idea is that if there's a problem at some later time, you basically have to destroy the finished ceiling to find the problem or tap into the circuit. You can probably call your local inspector over the phone and ask without identifying yourself. Or, you might to just want to switch to a deep junction box, leave it exposed in the finished ceiling with a blank cover on it.

Or, you could pretend I never mentioned it just do it how you were going to do it. Wink

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Too funny. Yeah I heard the same thing. I'll have to call I suppose. The last thing I want is to have a home inspector bring that up when I sell the house and have it be the deal breaker. (Not if I sell...when.) The NEC would have a field day with what I"ve got going on inside the wall for the zone lighting in the theater. Rolling Eyes shhhhhhhh. Laughing

In another post I mentioned I was 'thinking' of making a suspended ceiling with oak runners cut or milled to form inverted T's and use drywall panels of 2'x3'x1/4" (if I can find 1/4" around here). That would allow access to the plumbing and electrical arteries of the house. It's just soooo much more work than having someone help me slap up sheets of 3/8" drywall and screw it in place.

*sigh* You're right tho. Damn you. Mr. Green Wink

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